|SOG| Mod

[Tarek]

What is this about?

Well, First of all welcome to the thread of |SOG| mod for 911 First Responders, This thread is about making a mod for 911:FR/EM4 by Sog team, by sog team i don't only mean SOG members but rather anyone interested but must be registered on Forum and at least a forum VIP... Basically a person which we trust and know. The mod i think shall be easy to make because if Hoppah which is only one person made a great mod like the one he made then i think A group shall make an amazing mod. I think in sog-team.co.uk we have all the required people and needs.

The making of the Mod
Basically the files of the mod are easy and rather not so complex like i thought, basically its not ONE complete file were we get to put all the files together to make the mod work, something rather than GTA:SA, Something like GTA:SA which i have made a mod for before, was basically easy to make but rather took more time and needed learning in the merging of the files to make one big file. Rather here in 911:FR the files are seperate and everything acts on its own, for example each vechile has its own folder which it has all the sperate files in it of the textures. Most of the files are in the format of Microsoft DirectDraw Surface (.dds) which is a basic Microsoft format but rather doesn't work that easily but just needs a plugin. We will gather ideas from all SOG forum members and other people which aren't here too as this mod will be international ... or lets say public :D .

I haven't already decided EXACTLY what the mod will have special or what it will be about like the LA mod is special because its about LA units so i haven't yet thought about.

What happens after we get the mod ready?
After all of us team up and finish the mod, I will be able to get a website for it such as www.sogmodfor911.com or something simillar, or if Matt wishes to keep this here i do not mind, Each and everyone which puts a hand in this mod will has his name written in the credits of the mod and on the official site of the mod next to what exactly he made.

The Team
Basically there will be certain Roles and Leaders, Not exactly leaders...but people which are responsible for smaller groups to make that certain thing.

The basic Team shall consist of:

Project Leader
Graphics Leader
Police Department Leader
Fire Department
Life Saving Depertment Leader
Services Department Leader
Map Designing Leader
Mission Designing Leader
Multiplayer Designing Leader


Each Role:

Project Leader : The project Leader (which is me at the time) is responsible for the overall process of the mod and all its minor and major problems, and helping in solving them.

Graphics Leader : Is the person which is responsible for having Designers designing the vechiles of the mod. ( Also he will be Designing too)

Police Department Leader : Is the person responsible for the Police Department, Its vechiles & personal and everything.

Fire Department Leader : Is the person which is responsible for the Fire Department with all of its Units (Vechiles and Personall) And everything Else.

Life Saving Department Leader : Is responsible for all the ambulances and saving lives part with all its units and everything else.

Services Department Leader : Is the person responsible for all the Units and Everything of the Services department

Map Designing Leader: IS the person which will be able to Design Maps for SP and MP for the mod and getting other map designers.

Mission Desiging Leader : IS the person responsible for Singler Player Campain missions and SP alarms in the map.

Multiplayer Designing Leader : Is the person which will be responsible for MP designing with all its missions/alarms and everything else.


Our Current Team

Project Leader : Tarek
Graphics Leader : Not Assigned Yet
Police Department Leader : Nicolise
Fire Department : Not Assigned Yet
Life Saving (EMS) Depertment Leader : Tyrope
Services Department Leader : Not Assigned Yet
Map Designing Leader : Not Assigned Yet
Mission Designing Leader : Not Assigned Yet
Multiplayer Designing Leader : Not Assigned Yet
Vehicle Lights : Nicolise
Graphic Designer : Ender


Other

All ideas are welcome by ANYONE working in the mod or not working, and Good luck for all of Us, and lets make an International SOGIE :D

Thank you for your time :)

[Nicoleise]

I like your idea here mate, first of all huge kudos for coming up with it.


One minor thing though. Shouldn't the roles be divided into skill (skinning, texturing, mapping, modding, scripting, etc) rather than departments in game? :)


EDIT : One more thing. If you plan to base this on Hoppahs mod or any other mod, it's very essential to get their acceptance first in writing (e.g. email). We all enjoy Hoppahs mod, and stealing it without his consent would be like -removed-ing him up and down the back to be honest. We wouldnt like if someone made another Special Operations Group only with ".com" in the end either.

I know people here are very relaxed and casual about this, but just consider how you'd feel if it was your work being duplicated.


If you plan on basing it completely off the original game, it's a great plan, and alot easier as well, as we wont need permissions, but alot more modding required.

[Wes]

I hope you know where you get into, i don't actually have the files to chack if it's hard to make, but ussualy it's looks simpeler then it actually is, i do wish you luck with it, and if it indeed goes of, we rather have it on our own servers instead using a diferent one ;)

[Tarek]

One minor thing though. Shouldn't the roles be divided into skill (skinning, texturing, mapping, modding, scripting, etc) rather than departments in game? :)

Well, That shall be good too, but also People can have more than 1 Role so for example A person can be responsible for the Police Department and the Fire Department, but by means of Getting people to Skill in it,

I don't know how to explain this as my english is bad :D

Lets say for example that I am responsible for the Police Department, My responsibility is to get ideas of the Police, the Units, the personal the missions... etc etc, BUT the role of the Graphics Team is responsible for providing the Police Department Leader with his needs, He can skin,script or do what ever he wants on TOP of his main role which is to be in charge of the Department,,,, I hope you understand what i want to say :)


@Wes : I don't mind ;)

[Nicoleise]

I would like the police thingy then. As you may have gotten some kind of appreciation for, I'm into police and their methods a whole lot :p I - on the other hand - don't know much about firefighting.

I don't really know how any of the modding is done, but I'm up for the challenge of finding out, and I could imagine myself being best at skinning/texturing.

I wouldn't mind coming up with some good ideas though. One small disclaimer is that I would want to make this mod as realistic as possible :p And also, I'd like to see some European setting, that isn't used in the game, nor in LA mod. Europe has a lot of cool vehicles to offer as well. :)

[Tarek]

Yes Nico, I do say the same :), im actually starting to download other "Small" mods by people to see their ideas and know how they think too, and YES me too i want to make it as realistic as completly as possible, About not knowing anything about modding don't worry about it, because non of the people who made ANY of the mods of 911 know anything about modding, but they learn...

Update to List : Nicolise Taken Role of Police Department Leader

[Tyrope]

question: IF i sign up as the EMS Leader, do i need to code/draw myself, or just bring ideas in, as i -REMOVED- at the 2nd, and have no clue how to code. :P

if i only have to bring ideas, put my name on that list...

EDIT: i can code too, if you teach meh :)

[Tarek]

Tyrope...we are all into this together, each person helping each other, and Teaching each other, Welcome on Board mate :)

Updated List : Tyrope to EMS Department Leader

[Enders]

This looks fun, but I'm not sure which job I should do.

[Tim]

This sounds like a good Idea, and I would like to help, but not sure which area, either FD, or Mission Designing, as I can be more creative for missions objectives, stories, etc... then with designs, etc...

I'll think about it though.

[Enders]

I guess I could help out with some of the graphics? I don't really wanna be 'leader' though.

[Tarek]

Yes Enders you can :) You don't have to be leader :)

Also i have made a summary of the programs we are going to need and their tutorials

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.dds Converter
http://downloads.emergency-planet.com/index.php?act=view&id=2

Nvidia .dds plugin for photoshop
http://downloads.emergency-planet.com/index.php?act=view&id=3

ZModeler v2.1.0 With tutorials
http://www.zmodeler2.com/?mode=downloads

PhotoShop
www.adobe.com

Tutorials By Hoppah

- Basic Modding Info
http://www.emergency-planet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=120&Itemid=35

- UV-Mapping
http://www.emergency-planet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=117&Itemid=35

- 3D-Modeling
http://www.emergency-planet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=116&Itemid=35

- Script: Siren
http://www.emergency-planet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=121&Itemid=35

- Adding Vehicles
http://www.emergency-planet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=110&Itemid=35

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Also there's a program which we will need is Emergency 4 Editor V1.3 but i can't find it! but hopefully i will

[Tyrope]

.dds Converter - Have
Nvidia .dds plugin for photoshop - I kinda like paint shop pro 8 better, you got a plugin for that?
ZModeler v2.1.0 With tutorials - Have, tut's not read though
PhotoShop - Have-ish, i like jasc's paint shop pro better

Basic Modding Info - Read

Didn't read futher, as somebody kept Xfiring me :)

[Tarek]

Plug-In for Paint Shop Pro is available here (http://www.eq2.co.uk/downloads/dxt_tools/DXT_TOOLS.zip)

[Nicoleise]

Tarek - Amazing work! Really. :)

[Tarek]

Thank You :)

[Nicoleise]

Also there's a program which we will need is Emergency 4 Editor V1.3 but i can't find it! but hopefully i will

The program is a part of the Emergency main file (the one that also runs the game.). So you open in by adding a command to the command line.

First of all, if you look in your Start Menu folder group, there should be a shortcut to it there. If not, the easiest way to open it is to add a new shortcut for it ;

1) right click desktop
2) Select New
3) Click shortcut
4) set the target to : "G:\Spil\911 - First Responders\EM4.exe" -editor

The red text may vary depending on where you installed the game. The non red text needs to be duplicated excact.

5) Click next to give the shortcut a name, and click Next again to create it.
6) Launch editor from shortcut. :)

[Tarek]

WOW! THANK YOU VERY MUCH NICO!!!!! :)

Now we can start rocking :) ,

Also i have found the Textures of the Free PLay map, we can now starting editing it and making our own map,

http://downloads.emergency-4.org/file/modding/maps/map21-em4.zip

[Nicoleise]

I'd like to voluenteer as light "adder" or whatever you'd wanna call it :p


I once modded EM3 cause I got annoyed at the "candlelight" look of their headlamps. So I did an upgrade to every vehicle in the game, so they got more true-to-life white light with a more accurate range, and also asymetrical light (longer on the right side than the left (not in UK though)) so it looked like actual driving light.

I then added flashing highbeams, because most current emergency vehicles flash their left and right highbeam in an alternating pattern. Again, this was visible on ground in a realistic way.

I also upgraded the slow emergency lights to strobe lights and added lights on the side of the vehicles, etc. :)


I'd love to do stuff like that to our mod as well, and make sure they can all see where they're driving :p

[Enders]

I have Photoshop, and I will download the zmodeler and dds convertor.

[Tarek]

@ Enders : Ok, Will be waiting :)

@ Nico : Yes you can be in charge of Vehicle Lights :)

[Nicoleise]

This will only be about Denmark as I've learned while editing this, that Tyrope posts for NL. So post for the country you know :p


Denmark

Police services :
Motorbike + officer (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Yamaha_FJ1300A.jpg)
Regular patrol car FRONT (http://www.politiregi.dk/wp-content/dsc_0080.jpg) and REAR (http://www.politiregi.dk/wp-content/dsc_0082.jpg)
Alternate Patrol Car (More rare) (http://www.politiregi.dk/wp-content/dsc_0099.jpg)
K9 (Dog unit) FRONT (http://www.politiregi.dk/wp-content/dsc_0091.jpg) and REAR (http://www.politiregi.dk/wp-content/dsc_0097.jpg)
Unmarked police car (http://www.politiregi.dk/wp-content/dsc_0069.jpg)
Unmarked Police car (http://www.10-20.dk/images/uj54448.jpg)
Unmarked Police car (http://www.10-20.dk/images/074.jpg)
Unmarked Police car (http://www.10-20.dk/images/TY57434.jpg)
Semi Unmarked (http://www.10-20.dk/images/XX21643.jpg) (it's unmarked from the front) It belongs to the part of the police that deals with trucks and busses. It carries weights and stuff unboard to determine overloading, as well as cameras for catching speeders, cellphone users, etc.
Police personnel carrier (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Lima-9_MB_Vito.jpg/800px-Lima-9_MB_Vito.jpg)
Police Personel carrier (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/K%C3%B8benhavn_Golf21.jpg/800px-K%C3%B8benhavn_Golf21.jpg)
Police busses (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Politibusser1.jpg) (Personnel carriers or prisoner transports)
Forensigs Vehicle (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/VW_T4_forensics.jpg/800px-VW_T4_forensics.jpg) (Some would call it CSI)
ATK (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Fotovogn.jpg) (Automated Traffic Control), a radar equipped van that photographs speeders. Also used as Unmarked Personel carriers


AKS (Swat) :

Personnel Carrier
Equipment vehicle (http://www.politiregi.dk/wp-content/dsc_0015.jpg) (holds guns, balistic shields, etc)
Riot Control Vehicle (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Hollaendervogn_front_view.jpg/557px-Hollaendervogn_front_view.jpg) (Purpose (http://www.ebblog.dk/img/923/img_45e74160c8ef3.jpg) is to break up big crowds of protestors/rioters, if they become hostile. The aim is to break them up in smaller groups so it's possible to arrest them. Usually the protestors will try and stop these cars by standing in the way, but will be run into slowly, knocking them down. That usually changes their mind. )

Danish police does not have watercannons, as it's not allowed for them to use it, sadly. I still think one needs to be in the mod though. Danish police used one on one occasion, but due to the nature of it's use, they choose a CrashTender from an Air Force base, to prevent retaliation acts (vandalism). I think the most accurate way to "give" the police a watertender in denmark would be to use a watertender with the command to keep people away (for the mod ofc)


Emergency Services :

RTA (Road Traffic Accident) (http://www.112alarm.dk/2008/ibf/4.JPG)
Shows the black Porsche Cayenne - that's an EMS car, holds one doctor. There are several of these, Volkswagen Touareg, BMW X5, Porsche Cayenne, VW Transporter, VW Touran, etc etc. For the mod, it should hold 2 people though.


Official EMS car FRONT (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/Vordingborg%20%28156-3912%29.jpg-for-web-normal.jpg) and REAR (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/Vordingborg%20%28156-3912%29%20%282%29.jpg-for-web-normal.jpg)
Another EMS car (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/Aalborg%20-%20Lagevogn%20%28201-3110%29%20%28udgaet%20efter%20en%20ulykke%20i%2020 06%29.jpg-for-web-normal.jpg)
Yet another EMS car (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/Akutgruppe%20Frederiksborg%20%28133-3700%29.jpg-for-web-normal.jpg)
Ambulance from Capital region (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/KBH%28A57%29%20%28Sygetransportafd.%29.jpg-for-web-normal.jpg)
Country region ambulance (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/N%e6stved%20%28102-3982%29.jpg-for-web-normal.jpg) (The blue symbol indicates that it's a life saving one. By far most of danish ambulances are equipped with life saving devices.)
Larger Ambulance (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/N%e6stved%20%28102-3982%29.jpg-for-web-normal-1215192981.jpg)

Personel Transporter for EMS (http://www.beredskab-lolland.dk/Akutgruppe%20Frederiksborg%20%28133-3701%29.jpg-for-web-normal.jpg) (Used at large emergencies, sits 10)

Regular Ambulance (countryside) (http://www.alarm112-foto.dk/images/photoalbum/album_72/250620081433_t2.jpg)

Fire/EMS personnel transporter (used for both) (http://www.alarm112-foto.dk/images/photoalbum/album_65/290520081289_t2.jpg)


Fire service :
Small Fire engine (http://falckkorsør.dk/images/bilerne/1862.jpg) (attaches hoses)
Pioneer Truck (http://www.112alarm.dk/2008/dsb1/10.JPG) (Salvage vehicle, example (http://www.112alarm.dk/2008/dsb1/4.JPG)) (To the right, regular fire engine
Water tenders (http://www.alarm112-foto.dk/images/photoalbum/album_65/290520081260_t2.jpg)
Support vehicles (http://falckkorsør.dk/photogallery.php?photo_id=162) (Not really relevant for the game, they provide food, drinking, seating, additional equipment, suits, etc for firefighters at ongoing fires)
Small/Special Equipment Vehicle (http://www.alarm112-foto.dk/images/photoalbum/album_73/260620081446_t2.jpg)
Large Equipment vehicle (http://falckkorsør.dk/images/photoalbum/album_23/01122007326_t2.jpg) (equivelant to the Equipment truck in orig. game)
Enviroment Trailer (http://falckkorsør.dk/images/bilerne/2862.jpg) (Not applicaple to mod, but comes along if oil spilage or similar)
RTA Trailer (http://www.112alarm.dk/2008/lerbaek/6.JPG) (deployed at dangerous accidents to redivert or stop traffic)

DeKonV (http://www.brs.dk/brss/Ressourcekatalog/milj%C3%B8/cbrn.htm)

Various Fire Department vehilcles (Paint scheme) (http://falckkorsør.dk/images/photoalbum/album_23/01122007317.jpg)

We have alot more, including some special vehicles like a firetruck that can drive on rail road tracks. But I chosen to leave those out along with various personel transporters, etc.


Tech :
Small TowTruck (http://www.112alarm.dk/2008/motorcykelhavnen/7.JPG)
Large Tow Truck (http://www.112alarm.dk/2008/e45_8/11.JPG) (far left)
Trailer with light (http://www.brs.dk/brss/Ressourcekatalog/redning/image/himonsa.JPG) (for emergencies and such) (Could be attached/detached from TECH vehicle)
TECH Vehicle (http://www.brs.dk/brss/Ressourcekatalog/kommunikation/image/IMG_0068.JPG) (Only without Rear Windows)
Crane => Military


In addition to Fire and Tech, we also have something called "Beredskabsstyrelsen" which is some kind of responce unit for huuge emergencies. That's where the orange units come from.

This is a list of various vehicles of theirs (http://www.brs.dk/brss/Ressourcekatalog/alle.htm). It's in danish, but you can pretty much see what they do from the pics. And that if anything is needed, it's probably found there.

Military :

Military Police (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/DK-MIL-POL.jpg) (assists police rarely. Could be used as a Military supervisor vehicle though)

4x4 (http://forsvaret.dk/NR/rdonlyres/AD0B8C89-6BC3-4D17-95A9-2A540CB061F6/0/MercedesGD270CDI.jpg) (We also have hummers, but those would never be deployed in a city)
Personnel Truck (http://www.southeasthobbies.com.au/catalogue/italeri/279.jpg) (We use standard 5T Army Trucks)

Crane (http://forsvaret.dk/NR/rdonlyres/607F6BA7-0A5A-49A7-82AC-129399D7DB69/0/Herkules.jpg)

Mics pics of vehicles in action

Large traffic accident :
http://www.112alarm.dk/2008/e45_8/18.JPG
2 Fire Department RTA vehicles (carries stuff to stop the accident getting bigger, i.e. cones, flares, etc, etc. )
One EMS car (Black BMW X5)


I may have forgotten some, feel free to ask :) But those are all I could think of and find, to show the Danish Emergency stuff :p Note though, that there are plenty more varieties, it's only types Im mentioning. E.g. The BombSquad drives in VW Transporter T5, but it just has a different paint job than the personel carriers ;)

hope this helps

[Tyrope]

19 Pictures of dutch Fire department vehicles, suit and helmet. (http://www.rarhost.com/download-sd3p2f.html)

things i know that lack:
HAZMAT suit.
some front/rears of some vehicles

[Tarek]

Thank you Tyrope for Posting the Pictures :) , I think we can get a SUb Forum for our mod so we can separate the post titles...hope Wes/Matt sees this message :D

[Tyrope]

report post, that'll raise attention :P

[Nicoleise]

Right, virtually everything in Denmark posted now :D

*sneaks off to play 911* :D

[Enders]

Are we supposed to model those cars?

[Nicoleise]

Dunno... I'm trying to get a topic started on which country to work with, and then we'll mod the cars from that specific country once we all agree. ;)

The pics are for inspiration, I figured everyone would post something :)

[Tarek]

Basically enders we should find Polygon models for those cars and then we will be able to design them as we want, but till now i can't find any site which offers at least a truck polygon , anyone knows any?!


- NB : Thank you nico for the images :)

[Nicoleise]

You can also create the models yourself too :) Everything is possible :)

[Tarek]

yeah, but that wiil take time :D , and more effort reading tutorials :D

[Wes]

Question you guys are actually making a backup from original game right ?

[Tarek]

Well basically MOds have different files and folders than the orginal game, so the game won't be effected by the editing of the mod files,

[Wes]

Normally yes but you know to make the mod you have to work with the original files not the mod files as you need approval of the modmaker ;), so actually you have to make the new folder if you don't it just gonna go over the real version

[Tarek]

There isn't really much people which play this game on this forum, so i think that the following people should help us as they have the game for a while :D


Blizzard - Has not Replayed to Post Yet
Irishknight - Has not Replayed to Post Yet
Majid - Has not Replayed to Post Yet
Nicoleise - Joined The Team
Tarek - Joined The Team
Tctransporter - Has not Replayed to Post Yet
Tyrope - Joined The Team


So please people... Help us build this Mod and be the best of the rest :D

[Tim]

This sounds like a good Idea, and I would like to help, but not sure which area, either FD, or Mission Designing, as I can be more creative for missions objectives, stories, etc... then with designs, etc...

I'll think about it though.

I did reply .... on the first page :) ^^

Also I would like to clarify that this is our OWN MOD, and not any part of the LA MOD. Once I get some time I don't mind helping out at all, but I will need to explore the editor myself a bit to get thing "Hang" of it. :)

I'll try to help where I can I guess.

[Enders]

They have a nice assortment of trucks available at the Google 3D Warehouse:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?q=truck&btnG=Search&styp=m

However, the rendered images are only available in 2 formats: one for Google's 'Sketchup' program, a free (trial) 3d polygon modeling program, and if you have Photoshop CS3 Extended (yes, must be extended) there is a plug-in available at labs.adobe.com called 'Google 3D Warehouse Plugin for Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended' which will allow you to import a sketchup file into Photoshop Extended.

[Tarek]

Actually this site if very nice Enders, Thank you VERY much :)

Yes i do have photoshop Extended, What is the name of that plug in though?

[Wes]

'Google 3D Warehouse Plugin for Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended' :p

[Enders]

'Google 3D Warehouse Plugin for Adobe Photoshop CS3 Extended' :p

Lol. :)
Yeah, it's a really long name, but it's a magic plug in :)
However, unfortunately, Photoshop's integrated 3D toolbar isn't really that amazing. You can select wireframe/rendered views, change light settings, and rotate/orbit, but that's about it.

[Matt]

Yes great idea and really hope it works. Like I said, I endorse it 100% and wish the mod well. Sadly, I dont have the game nor have ever played it, so it shall be interesting to see the outcome of this mod.

Lets hope you can get a dedicated server up too then we would definately be in business :D

Good Luck!

[Nicoleise]

Sadly that's not possible Matt :(

The game only has peer-to-peer with up to 4 players, so one of the player is the host and admin, and is the only person who can start the game.

When the game is running it's impossible to join it, and when it ends it requires host to go back to the lobby - which is the only place where the game is joinable.

But hey, it'll be great publicity, and also be a good thing for our members and others to enjoy! :)

[Tarek]

Basically Yes, But eventually will be able to find a way around this and be able to make a small .exe which makes it a dedicated server

[Nicoleise]

I've just emailed the creator of the Winterberg mod, asking him politely if we may use two of his scripts :

• Paramedics dont have the strecher in hand when leaving an ambulance, and there's only one "assistant" and one doctor. Once the patient needs lifting, they both go to rear of ambulance and get the strecther out.

• Firefighters can set up emergency lighting on scene, and not be "stuck" to the light like on LA mod.

The Winterberg also contains another cool function : The Edoctor rides in his own car with an assistant. As the victim is ready for transport, the Edoctor will ride in the ambulance to the hospital if the condition is critical, and the assistant will follow the ambulance with the doctors car. And if you deploy an ambulance to a critically wounded victim, that will generate radio traffic once the ambulance is on scene, and the ambulance it self will hence call the doctor on scene, he'll automatically begin treating the victim when he arrives. :)

But I think all of that is best left in the Winterberg mod, after all we shouldnt copy his mod, but I did like the no-strecther thing so much, I asked him if we may use it :)

[Tarek]

Sounds Good :)

Thank you Nico :)

[Nicoleise]

Got a reply from him, we're welcome to use his scripts, in moderate amounts. The only circumstance, is that he cannot provide support as he's too busy. :)

Please run any scripts from the Winterberg mod by me before using them, after all, I gave my word that we wouldnt use them excessively :)

I'm gonna try my hand at modelling now or tomorrow :)

[Wes]

now isn't that sweet, remember also give a thx in the mod credits then.

[Nicoleise]

Of course, already promised them in the email ;) It's very kind of them to let us look at - and use their code. :)

In my experience, people will let you do alot, if you simply ask them first. And luckily I was right this time. ;) Very nice people by the way :)

[BlizZaRD^]

How hard is it to modding this game?
Because if it is easy then im intrested, so if someone could show me a bit and then i can say if im on this mission or not ;)