Returning

[Deblack]

damn i leaved the clan because of less activity and other reasons ( i will tell matt later). I tried to join |ELITE| but dont know why!! i think i cant be in a clan without my 1st clan friends, Gunchick, corvette etc...playing with gunchick at 7:00am LOL VIP with Corvette!!
i dont care about being a JM without a admin...the important here is representing SOG...
so i want to ask if can i come back for SOG arms...not only for my big friends but to help this clan too!!
i will do the trial again if HM or GL want it...thats no problem for me...i only want come back for my 1st and old clan!!
i will wait an answer m8!

[DeKA]

:D :D :D

nice mate :welcome: back and let's see what authorities will say

[Selena]

Welcome back, deblack. :sunny: To the coolest SWAT4 clan. ;) And like DeKA said, let's see what the higher ups say about it.

[Enders]

This reminds me of Spec's thread.
Your fate is up to the GLs, and I wish you best of luck.

[Matt]

I appreciate the recruitment thread, but im not too sure of the outcome from the higher members, GC's and GL's.

We had decided earlier in the week that anyone who left us now, left us forever. The whole point of such a stict regime is to remove the weak and less committed and hold on to the strong dedicated members.

Anyhow, its good to see you have come to your senses, but it will be discussed before a decison and I would like to hear from you in the meantime ;)

Take care

Matt

[GunChicK]

damn i leaved the clan because of less activity and other reasons ( i will tell matt later). I tried to join |ELITE| but dont know why!! i think i cant be in a clan without my 1st clan friends, Gunchick, corvette etc...playing with gunchick at 7:00am LOL VIP with Corvette!!
i dont care about being a JM without a admin...the important here is representing SOG...
so i want to ask if can i come back for SOG arms...not only for my big friends but to help this clan too!!
i will do the trial again if HM or GL want it...thats no problem for me...i only want come back for my 1st and old clan!!
i will wait an answer m8!

hey deblack i hope you can come back m8:D
well ofcourse you mis me:rolleyes:
and what abouth |ELITE| i have no words or that;)

wel i hope the gl deside you can come back.
i talk too you on x-fire

[Tim]

It is glad to see that you want to re-join us, however, like Matt said we are starting to be more strict, and the HM, GC & GLs all have a say in a decision, or any applicants really.

I wish you luck.

[Spec_Operator]

This reminds me of Spec's thread.

I think i was writing much more...


We had decided earlier in the week that anyone who left us now, left us forever. The whole point of such a stict regime is to remove the weak and less committed and hold on to the strong dedicated members.

Sad to hear... i never saw me as "weak" member...

[IrishKnight]

Spec, a lot of people don't see themselves as weak members, but in truth, some are. Not saying you are, I am just saying I doubt those people who left were thinking "I'm a weak member." The truth is that if they bail out because they have a little problem, and won't stay to solve it, they are a weak member. Now Ace and Trinity were a little different I will say that. I don't like that they left, but they at least left for good reasons.

Deblack: I wish you best of luck in getting back in. I'm sure whatever is decided will be whatever is best for the clan. Let's wait on all the GC's/GL's, and hope for a swift decision.

[Spec_Operator]

Spec, a lot of people don't see themselves as weak members, but in truth, some are. Not saying you are, I am just saying I doubt those people who left were thinking "I'm a weak member." The truth is that if they bail out because they have a little problem, and won't stay to solve it, they are a weak member. Now Ace and Trinity were a little different I will say that. I don't like that they left, but they at least left for good reasons.

Deblack: I wish you best of luck in getting back in. I'm sure whatever is decided will be whatever is best for the clan. Let's wait on all the GC's/GL's, and hope for a swift decision.

imo, someone talking about murder and NOONE reacting on it besides me, was a good reason to at least get some attention on it. Thats just my oppinion. Rather that then doing nothing, because i will always take something like that very serious. Much more serious than gaming. And of course not everyone who says he's not a weak member is not a weak member, yes. But if i would have been a weak member, i would have done much less here and whouldnt want to rejoin right in a difficult situation like now. It seems like i still have to wait, but i want you guys to know that if anyone needs me, I'm aviable for SOG. Talking about Ace, he left and rejoined for valid reasons, and i think if Trinity would want to come back she would get back in without discusion too.

But thats off topic, this is about deblack.

He was a member of the COT for some time, and so i know him relative good already. I think if he really wants he can become a good member again.

[Deblack]

thanks all for the posts ooh and matt if i cant come back thats no problem i understand m8 ;)....but lets see

[Ghost MacRoth]

imo, someone talking about murder and NOONE reacting on it besides me, was a good reason to at least get some attention on it.

Yeah, so you overeacted. Also, I seem to recall you said that WASN'T the reason you left, but a convienient excuse to 'test a theory'?

Whatever way you cut it, it was a poor reason for leaving.

[Spec_Operator]

Yeah, so you overeacted. Also, I seem to recall you said that WASN'T the reason you left, but a convienient excuse to 'test a theory'?

Whatever way you cut it, it was a poor reason for leaving.

I was talking about multiple reasons. A few of them were a stupid a attempt to be funny, or get the things straight again... dont ask me why.

The main reason was not that you said that, i can understand that you said that, the reason was that noone else reacted, and in my opinion thats not understandable. Thats why i wanted attention to the post, and i wrote stupid stuff. First in Trins thread, and later, when still noone said anything, i got ... yes, crazy and made that thread.

There was indeed a "theory" i tested. But i noticed that AFTER i opened the thread, and i just wrote it becuase i thought saying that would make the thread less bad... i know it was stupid and dont ask me why i tired to be funny... in that situation i thought it would be the best thing to do like "i'm crazy" and to retreat because i saw that i was overreacting and had no way to return.

There was also an attempt to retread when i was joining the Pistols Only server with Matt on it. I hoped he would say something about my missing tag, would say i should return, i'd say yes and everything was alright again like with the other people who left. Didnt work. So i somehow started to panic and did the next thing that came in my mind: I sadly tried to be funny, thats why i posted that laughing stuff and said that you weren't the main reason... I tired to explain that over and over again...

1.: I overreacted because it made me mad that noone said anything
2.: I was taking a bath after our discussion in trins thread. I kinda bottled up my anger in this time somehow
3.: I posted the thread
4.: I made stupid attempts to retreat from that situation
5.: Escalation

[Ghost MacRoth]

regardless, this is not the place for this discussion. It'd a thread about DeBlack, so lets get back to that....

[Spec_Operator]

Yea, like i said before^^

Maybe you should even close it until the leaders decided. (no request, only a suggestion)

[Matt]

I was talking about multiple reasons. A few of them were a stupid a attempt to be funny, or get the things straight again... dont ask me why.

The main reason was not that you said that, i can understand that you said that, the reason was that noone else reacted, and in my opinion thats not understandable. Thats why i wanted attention to the post, and i wrote stupid stuff. First in Trins thread, and later, when still noone said anything, i got ... yes, crazy and made that thread.

There was indeed a "theory" i tested. But i noticed that AFTER i opened the thread, and i just wrote it becuase i thought saying that would make the thread less bad... i know it was stupid and dont ask me why i tired to be funny... in that situation i thought it would be the best thing to do like "i'm crazy" and to retreat because i saw that i was overreacting and had no way to return.

There was also an attempt to retread when i was joining the Pistols Only server with Matt on it. I hoped he would say something about my missing tag, would say i should return, i'd say yes and everything was alright again like with the other people who left. Didnt work. So i somehow started to panic and did the next thing that came in my mind: I sadly tried to be funny, thats why i posted that laughing stuff and said that you weren't the main reason... I tired to explain that over and over again...

1.: I overreacted because it made me mad that noone said anything
2.: I was taking a bath after our discussion in trins thread. I kinda bottled up my anger in this time somehow
3.: I posted the thread
4.: I made stupid attempts to retreat from that situation
5.: Escalation

I understand, but we all make mistakes. Unfortunetly, you left, you made your bed, it were for silly reasons and as a result "screwed" us over to be quite honest, and in "us" I mean the clan.

Talking in general now,

Life is not about quitters, if everyone did that when things got hard society would crumble. Only until one gets a job they realise you cannot just quit and expect to come back as a) it shows alot about their personality, b) it shows they are likely to repeat their actions again for whatever reason & c) they werent prepared to be committed or dedicated to the cause.

In my opinion, quitting in hope of some sympathy, a majority vote or in hope of changing something is sickening and does not get one bit of my respect.

[Spec_Operator]

And to proof that i wont repeat that, i wanted to return, especialy because i see the clan is in a difficult situation and could need good members.

In my time at SOG, there was more than this one situation, i was often angry about stuff. I dont know why i did that this day, probably because i was taking the word killing very very serious. And thats what i mean with a reason. It was not about some random argument... I'll write a new rejoin-thread, maybe now maybe later.

It was a mistake, but i learned from it and i would like to proof that.

Sorry for being Off topic again, but i have to answer on these posts... maybe send me a pm or contact me at xfire, i'd love to talk with you about that, but this is indeed the wrong place...

[Matt]

Fair enough...

However this would have to continue out of this thread as ghost states :)

[TerminatorFR]

Heya deblack, nice to see you comming again. :)
I became fear when I have seen the members list going empty. So I am glad to see you rejoining us. I hope to see some other excellent members who left us doing the same, but my hope is going away.

[malt3se]

Thats maybe true but there are new members coming too. They go, they come. Thats how the world keeps turning.

[Wes]

I'll be fair with i think, you said you left because of time, i think you left to join elite and gave us a excuse that it is time, now that you can't join elite,you come back and say you can't miss some.

I think it's a big BS, have fun in the future.

[Deblack]

no wes...im not that type of person if u wanna know!!......anyway if u are against me to join again ill be ok as vip member.....Thats no problem...but wes u dissapointed me thinking like that!!! its sad :(....its hard to believe but i had strong reasons...i have to talk with matt about it!!...and WES if i wanna join elite i will join...i was just thinking about my old friends nothing more...have fun in future!!!matt forget my returning application sorry m8

[Element]

Deblack has requested that this thread be locked, so :lock: