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DeKA
26-04-09, 10:40 AM
Hi All SOG !

Some days passed, i had time to think on. I come back, to re-write my appeal. As you maybe already know i am banned in this case:

http://www.sog-team.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13575

In my last appeal were some misunderstooding between you and me. So all what i can say this time:

- I KNOW I MADE A MISTAKE.
- I know i did violation against SOG rules.
- I taze back my teammate and this is unwelcome at SOG.

but, i learn of this case, and if you give me one more chance, i will keep the rules on SOG server just as i did all time until this case.

Hope you don't think i am as bad as never can have a chace to play again on your servers. I have static IP so you can easily follow up my next games, and i can't join in another identity.

I can't write more, and hope this will be enough, and i can be unbanned.


second appeal has been placed and considered positively by seniors of the clan

we give you second chance and now you are unbanned from forums and servers but PRO

if we see you obey our rules on other servers you could be unbanned from PRO as well, as you were reported by Pepper and banned by Mike you should catch up with them for some games

abide SOG rules from now on and do not violate them, if you are not sure about rules contact any GC+ to get explanation or help

Pepper
26-04-09, 11:03 AM
nice to see your Appeal Ectod, and nice to see you are unbanned from the Forums, i am looking forward with some Rounds up to you, as i know, you are tactical orientated Player, see ya :)

XmarksTheScot
26-04-09, 12:37 PM
This is a welcome sight. I orginally felt we had lost a very good player to stubborness and misunderstanding. i hope that you can catch me sometime for some rounds and we can put the past behind us :D

Ectod
26-04-09, 06:45 PM
Thanks so much for appreciating! :p
And especial reverence to a good friend Hidroncs for his support and help. ;)

WmD23
26-04-09, 07:21 PM
Welcome back Ectod :)

Hidroncs
26-04-09, 08:20 PM
You know what i'm thinking about :D:D... WELCOME back

:p:p:welcome::p:p


:rocks

Tactics
27-04-09, 10:24 PM
i dont played whit you but i will catch you soon for some games. the best way to keep rambos away from the our server is to call admins on x-fire. u can add us to your friendlist, just ask us and we are there in 1 minute. ;)

<<---- you can download xf by pressing this button under u name "get xFire".

Freeezer
28-04-09, 07:47 PM
Welcome back mate. As you see we are a very mature community and we take your appreaciate seriously :) Good that you have learned something from it, and now we can start with you all nice and clean :) So heads up and don't waste it mate :) Big cheers for ya and hope to catch a game or two with ya :)

O'Neill
29-04-09, 05:12 AM
Good to see the SOG senior members agree to give you another chance. I would hate to see a good player to get banned again. I've played a few rounds with you and I've seen you play tactical.

Tim
29-04-09, 05:17 AM
Glad you wanted to be unbanned, don't blow it. :)

Ectod
31-05-10, 11:30 AM
Glad you wanted to be unbanned, don't blow it. :)

Hello guys! Remember me, I've got banned last year :lshmtfo: :)
Long time not played SWAT, and yesterday I was tried to join the game on PRO server. And after map starts have got the message something like that: "due a previous rule violations... etc. etc." So, seems that was not temporary ban, but permanent? :cool: No chance to be back?

Kirjakukka
31-05-10, 01:04 PM
Your database entry is here (http://www.clanreportdb.co.uk/report/dbdetails.php?id=479) and as far as I can tell, it say that you're on No Tolerance status. That means the bot will always say that "Due previous rule violations, you will be observed etc.". Also the db entry says next:

Pro Server Status: Banned

Which of course means that you're banned from sog pro servers, so that's why the bot kicks you out when you're joining Pro server. But you still can play on the coop #1 server

Ectod
31-05-10, 03:09 PM
Ok, understand. Harsh verdict... I can tell

Unfriendly...

Disappointed...

Regards...

Kirjakukka
31-05-10, 03:16 PM
I only told how the thing is :)

The ban from Pro servers maybe can be lifted. But DeKA has to agree with it :)

Selena
31-05-10, 03:16 PM
It's not so unfriendly, you know, considering that SOG lifted the ban and all and treats everyone the same... Can't you just accept the consequences of your previous actions and go on with a smile?

You're here, among good people in this community and you can play on the SOG servers... Chill out and have fun.

Take your time and show that you're good... Then the ban will probably be lifted.

:sunny:

DeKA
31-05-10, 03:29 PM
Ok, understand. Harsh verdict... I can tell

Unfriendly...

Disappointed...

Regards...

I suggest you to read the first post in this thread and dont start again with reasoning.

We have decided to lift bans but it dosnt mean we will tolerate your rudeness.

Ectod
31-05-10, 06:43 PM
Thx, I realized, there is no such reasoning which would be able to affect onto total inflexibility :lshmtfo: ;) :ssh:

I've read 1st post, but problem is I cant catch those guys ( = "examinators" for my good behaviour =)) on the servers, moreover seems I never met them when played even more often (I mean since I've got banned, last year) and probably will never meet then. :)

:ssh: (Besides, I think it's not very SINCERE way "to prove your good-ness". :rolleyes:) :ssh:

DeKA
31-05-10, 09:41 PM
you can play with other members as well to prove your can play with the rules, it was suggested to play with certain persons but it was also suggested some time ago;

now it will be good to catch up for games with any of SOG members who can later post here that you abide the rules and you play correctly

Ectod
31-05-10, 10:11 PM
Ok thx, I understand =)

Ahh, sad that you still do not believe to previous posts here, incl from SOG members, who were played with me earlier and already wrote about that, (as Hidroncs and O'Neill or Zephyr... =))

Franciswat
31-05-10, 10:18 PM
PS Only Hidroncs of people you mentioned is a SOG members. :)

StuKa
31-05-10, 10:26 PM
:whs:

apart of it, characters change Ectod ;) Now all what DeKA and others want to say is that you only have to show that you changed good way ;) I think it isnt real hard for you cause to write that appeal is the first step and you do it :) Now you see your still welcome ;) Make the best of it and have fun to play some rounds with us huh? :)

Ectod
31-05-10, 11:08 PM
Guys, plzzz. Look at my age finally, so do you believe I'm another teen, who need to become mature, become more responsible for the actions? )) Why do you need all this chicanery? :candle:
I am what I am, I never become "worse" or "better". Sad that was lone accident (with TT) I regret, until now spoils my "reputation" :lshmtfo:. Why simply do not forget and to give forgiveness? :$

Ok, stopped to be annoying and bagging :D
I just wonder of your rigidness (hush,.. only in my thoughts )))) :ssh:

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SORRY =)

StuKa
01-06-10, 04:40 AM
We sure not think youre "another teen" we have to drill mature :D But think about that - if youre responsible for your actions, you maybe only said "Ok, youre verdict is entitled. I take it so." and good ;) But you discuss and it sounds (mb only to me) that you give us the fault for your "punishment". I think DeKA only wants to see some evidences that shows, that youre a mature minded gamer that have fum with sog and is agreed with rules :) There is no chicanery or bad intention.

Ectod
01-06-10, 09:28 AM
that you give us the fault for your "punishment"
Not at all! I understand, that "mythical" :D SOG: treats everyone the same
I'm not talking about me all this time, even, and just about the basic principles...

I only wanna ask you to show humanity, sometimes though, and not to be robotic or "tactic" in your judgment. 'Coz violation differs from violation and depends on circumstances, also depends on person, one p. has propensity to law-breaking, and another doesn't have (but with proud been placed onto one row with first one). :$
Only wouldn't like not to see any pharisaism, guys. :(
Only that.

Discussing, just while I'm lil emotional :lshmtfo:, no more reasons (else, feel some kind of fun in it, though :D).
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Sorry again, stopped myself :)

5NaDDeR
01-06-10, 09:37 AM
Not at all! I understand, that "mythical" :D SOG:
I'm not talking about me all this time, even, and just about the basic principles...

I only wanna ask you to show humanity, sometimes though, and not to be robotic or "tactic" in your judgment. 'Coz violation differs from violation and depends on circumstances, also depends on person, one p. has propensity to law-breaking, and another doesn't have (but with proud been placed onto one row with first one). :$
Only wouldn't like not to see any pharisaism, guys. :(
Only that.

Discussing, just while I'm lil emotional :lshmtfo:, no more reasons (else, feel some kind of fun in it, though :D).
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Sorry again, stopped myself :)


i tink that the decision of deka is a good one as your appeal was good only on 1 condition that was get some rounds with the ones who baned you if you do so it will be much better for all of us and you
as you are making it only harder for yourself to have the pro server bans lifted

Ectod
01-06-10, 10:40 AM
In addition...
By the way, never mentioned about IP you used in ban list (81.91.189.5), but this IP does not belong to me.

You may see whois data for this address:


inetnum: 81.91.189.0 - 81.91.189.255
netname: ANDERS-CUST-ONS
descr: Obyedinennye Nahabinskie Seti Ltd.
descr: Moscow, Russia
country: RU
admin-c: VV1757-RIPE
tech-c: VV1757-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: RU-ANDERS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Viktor Voskresensky
address: Obyedinennye Nahabinskie Seti Ltd.
address: 1, Mnevniki
address: Moscow, Russia
phone: +7 495 771 27 04
fax-no: +7 495 771 27 04
e-mail:
nic-hdl: VV1757-RIPE
mnt-by: RU-ANDERS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

route: 81.91.176.0/20
descr: RU-ANDERS BLOCK
origin: AS39792
mnt-by: RU-ANDERS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered


This IP belongs to one from our 6 VPN servers * -gateways (NAT technology)
Here we have about 8-12 thousands of Internet subscribers over this provider in our town.
So you may understand that 255 IPs it's not enough for all of them. :)

Gradually, mb you've banned at least 2-3 thousands of potential (or maybe real) players then. :lshmtfo:

Now all of them are hostages, depending on my "good behaviour" here )))

DTKreten
01-06-10, 11:53 AM
Are you even listening to what everyone is saying?

Thx, I realized, there is no such reasoning which would be able to affect onto total inflexibility
1.)Your ban from from all servers but pro was lifted, that seems pretty flexible for me.

Ahh, sad that you still do not believe to previous posts here, incl from SOG members, who were played with me earlier and already wrote about that, (as Hidroncs and O'Neill or Zephyr... =))
2.)We do, but that doesn't mean you didn't commit the violation, nor i think we should pretend how you didn't.

I am what I am, I never become "worse" or "better". Sad that was lone accident (with TT) I regret, until now spoils my "reputation" . Why simply do not forget and to give forgiveness?
3.)You had your reputation until the moment you committed TT. Now you have to build your reputation again, what was suggested in the first place.

'Coz violation differs from violation and depends on circumstances
4.)Wich is exactly why we should treat them all the same, no "flexibility", no reasons or whatever. Appeals can depend on circumstances, punishment not.

You may see whois data for this address:
5.)Please do not post this info here

Gradually, mb you've banned at least 2-3 thousands of potential (or maybe real) players then.

Now all of them are hostages, depending on my "good behaviour" here )))
6.)This way of trying to get things done is just lame.

7.)But you discuss and it sounds (mb only to me) that you give us the fault for your "punishment"
I agree here with Stuka

8.)You could have played some games with us already instead of going into endless discussions about this, wich might have already gotten you unbanned.

Ectod
01-06-10, 02:49 PM
We do, but that doesn't mean you didn't commit the violation
Pff! I'm not arguing about as I didn't :D. And I feel regret, and I fully agree with the rules, as always been!. Just I'm not a robot, and cannot give the guarantee for anytime in any conditions (esp, when I feel injustice) I could act all predictable way only. I have senses, btw :p . And since I've got some sad experience, be sure I will be much more careful in future times. This is all I trying to say here all the time. :$

5.)Please do not post this info here
You mean?.. Seems... this is open information.

And, realize another fact, actually I still can enter PRO server from another (5) IPs anytime :lshmtfo:
Moreover, I can buy (anytime also) external "white" IP, or dynamic
But I wont play there until I will get unbanned officially here.
I really wish to make all things transparent. I'm honest at all ways.
Therefore, this have no sense:
6.)This way of trying to get things done is just lame.
This was just self-ironic =)

You could have played some games with us already instead of going into endless discussions about this

Sure, still looking for this. ;)

Sorry for this spacey reasoning :$

StuKa
01-06-10, 03:09 PM
Gradually, mb you've banned at least 2-3 thousands of potential (or maybe real) players then.

And, realize another fact, actually I still can enter PRO server from another (5) IPs anytime
Moreover, I can buy (anytime also) external "white" IP, or dynamic

It seems you make fun of our rules and SOG at all O.o
Sounds like you mean everything we do is useless and you can do what you want here if like it. Maybe im wrong with it. But seems that you forgot one thing. You want something from the Clan Leaders not them from you ;) But with those endless discussions and blame assignations you didnt do yourself a favour.

So be happy that bans lifted on all other servers except PRO and play some nice rounds with us. Anything else follows than automatically ;)

DeKA
01-06-10, 03:47 PM
This thread went offtopic so its :lock: