HatakeKakashi (2)

[HatakeKakashi]

Hello! (again)

Im banned at Sog-team.co.uk Pro.
I cant find report with reason.
I can connect and play on other sog servers, 0 info from admin bot.
It looks like your mistake.

try connect to Sog-team.co.uk (http://img531.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1113099786yx4.flv) - all good
try connect to Sog-team.co.uk Pro (http://img531.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beztytuu00033782158pl6.flv) - cant connect "You are banned on this server"

[Pepper]

Hello HatakeKakashi, very unlucky for you, this ...:banned:... dynamic IP`s are the Horror for the Admins Work, Jessica has much Work to do, and be sure, the next Senior who will read this, will handle this Problem, i hold my Eye open until they come ;)

[BourneUK]

It is likely to be an issue with the IP of a previous bad player in the same range as yourself, i think Deka is man to look into this and i'm sure he will do so. You are correct there is NO report about yourself for bad behavior so rest assured it will be sorted as soon as possible and appologies for the inconvieniance but im sure you can understand that it is not intentional, its just completely unbanning your current range is likely to allow the said bad player entrance into the Pro server which neither you or us wants.

Hold tight im sure Deka will look into it for you ;)

[DeKA]

hmm i cant find your IP on ban list :s contact me via xf

[HatakeKakashi]

i reser router (change ip) and all looks good

[Nicoleise]

Didn't I tell you the last time you had this issue, that it's due to your IP being dynamic, and being in the same range as a range-ban on our servers? :p

In other words, this question has already been answered, and I believe I even invited you to contact a GC+ (since SA admin is needed) directly, should you have issues again.

We'll have to look into who was banned on that range, that you are also under, so we can estimate if they're likely to be back on our servers or not.

@ Deka - There's only one rangeban on Pro with a Polish range, and Hatake is under that sometimes. I'm struggling more to find the actual report with the reason for the rangeban. I'd like to know if those who were banned on that range are likely to appear again or not, before clearing up the ban.. :)

[HatakeKakashi]

I know about this rangeban. -.-
I thought im or im not.
How i see somtimes im, sometims im not.

not good :(

[Wes]

i don't see a rangeban on pro

[Nicoleise]

You're right, it's no longer there. Dunno if Deka removed it earlier in the day, or it is was removed previously. It was there the last time Hatake appealed though :)

[Wes]

I wanted to know first who it was in that range, before deleting

[DeKA]

it wasnt deleted, probably he gets the ip of banned player as he has dynamic IP

[HatakeKakashi]

eh and again im here.

My Comments:
I dont know who was leader, but his order was "USE TAZER" on frank.
Its cannot was mistake becasue frank was rusher, and leader some times aimed on his from tazer.
Tazing was leader payback for rushing how i think. He said "NEGATIVE", yes right but too slow when i shot, or 1-2 sec before. I cant stop.

PS. Follow leader orders should be first and the most important rules

RULES (http://www.sog-team.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=100)

[...]
No Team killing, team-nading, team-tazing or team-peppering
Listen to your element leader
[...]

so this was EL order, i go follow EL order, and im banned for EL listening :rocks


EDIT
This is where an old saying, slightly adapted to the situation, would come to mind :

If your Element Leader asked you to jump off a cliff, would you do it?


Come on, mate. It's common sense. Your Element Leader isn't god, he's a regular public player, like yourself. If he orders you to do something that violates the server rules, you shouldn't do it. Especially not as you seem to know the rules very well, and would then be said to break them knowingly and intentionally.

Had this been another player following the leaders order and tazing a player, I would have an xFire message from you within 30 seconds asking me to kick a player on PRO, and within the hour I would see a report stating that some one teamtazed and that he doesn't deserve to be on the server. All because you know, that this would be wrong. So how come our rules are somehow read differently, when you're the one breaking them, rather than reporting others for breaking them?

The way you keep making odd excuses up, and chop our rules word by word, to intentionally misread them into obscure situations is sickening and it has to stop! You have to take responsibility for your own actions if you want to get anywhere at all.

So far, you have not given us any reason what so ever to lift the ban. If you want to post an actual apology, you can do so in our Appeal forum (you know where it is), and we'll consider it from there, but do not even think about quoting our rules with insane twistes to weird situations where simple common sense would easily solve the riddle, please.

It NOT me make rules, it YOU "SOG".
Some YOUR RULES are st:sssh:d,
but rules are rules,
leader is leader,
st:sssh:d leader is leader.

rule is Listen to your element leader
not Listen to your element leader (if he make order wrong with other rule like team taze or team kill IGNORE)

i go follow your rule, and listen my leader.


You should think abiut new rules, because this rules are sometims discrepancy.

[Nicoleise]

If that's what you consider an apology, then I think our current "Ban rule" as those are called, will stay in effect.

Honestly, you can't expect us to simply fall flat for that load of nonsense and go "Oh yeah, you're right HatakeKakashi! Let's just rewrite our rules to suit you!"

Point is, 75% of all our players have no problem with our rules. 24,99% are bad players and doesn't care about rules. 0,01% of our players (you) read the rules in such a bizarre way, that you would practically have us write a bible on how we expect you to play the game, with all possible and impossible exceptions, occurances, situations, mishaps, etcetera included!

Common sense goes along way. And what annoys me the most is that our rules are not much different from real life, and you KNOW this.

If your boss told you "Hey, steal that old womans handbag" and the police picked you up, they wouldn't accept you saying that it's your boss' fault either.


This is in no way even close to an apology, and just for your attitude, you'd deserve to be banned all over again. Anyhow, as that's not possible, we'll setlle for just leaving the ban as it is for now.

Thank you for your appeal.

[Wes]

He's banned all over, not a appeal in my book ...

[Tactics]

first i have to say that the rules simply to understand and more easyer to hold them up. hatake, as you heared the order "use tazer", the first thing in your mind must be, TeamTazing is not alowed at all time. you report play on our server for team tazing but you do it also. i had some rounds whit you where any guys gaved the same comands but no one done it (inclusiv you). ==> so we have to report them because they dont folow the order from the leader? if your answer is "yes" than i have to say "you see the matter to childish". you know the rules beter than the most other people which play on our servers. we dont tolerate deliberate infringements on our servers, equal in which matter. you say our rules are discrepancy sometimes? for me and i think for all others is the situation clear. "if the leader order to do a rule violation" you simply dont folow the order and ignore it or the beter way it so say the leader whats wrong whit this comand and why you dont will do it. some ot the people who play on our servers dont know the rules so good and we can tell them whats wrong. the result is that they try to give his best to play whit the rules and we can enjoy the game.

[Matt]

eh and again im here.

My Comments:
I dont know who was leader, but his order was "USE TAZER" on frank.
Its cannot was mistake becasue frank was rusher, and leader some times aimed on his from tazer.
Tazing was leader payback for rushing how i think. He said "NEGATIVE", yes right but too slow when i shot, or 1-2 sec before. I cant stop.

PS. Follow leader orders should be first and the most important rules

RULES (http://www.sog-team.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=100)

[...]
No Team killing, team-nading, team-tazing or team-peppering
Listen to your element leader
[...]

so this was EL order, i go follow EL order, and im banned for EL listening :rocks


EDIT


It NOT me make rules, it YOU "SOG".
Some YOUR RULES are st:sssh:d,
but rules are rules,
leader is leader,
st:sssh:d leader is leader.

rule is Listen to your element leader
not Listen to your element leader (if he make order wrong with other rule like team taze or team kill IGNORE)

i go follow your rule, and listen my leader.


You should think abiut new rules, because this rules are sometims discrepancy.

The "rule says listen to your element leader", not "obey your element leaders orders" ;)

Anyway the whole issue is pathetic. You are probably one out of 1000 who have had that excuse to break a rule. If you had any common sense you would have listened and thought "that is against the server rules so I will not obey this order".

More fool you... ban remains :)

[Pepper]

the Acceptance for the |SOG|Academy has - failed -
...until his Appeal is successful for our Seniors.

[HatakeKakashi]

btw
in evidence i see only tazed Officer and other officers without tazers.
Its good proof for BAN?
All other can taze, not only me... KM too, thats SOG.
I see need to say BB.

[Nicoleise]

You admitted it, you -removed- -removed- ... :mad:

I don't think you're taking this seriously at all, but I will not have you accuse our members of your faults, especially not after you admitted to violating the rules yourself. You crossed the line there.

Your ban stays in effect. You can consider contacting us again to play on our servers, if you stumble upon a change of attitude.

Untill then, this thread is closed to prevent further attacks on SOG or our members!

[DeKA]

also dont make me mad more as i will ban you from the site and i can assure you will not be able to connect to any sog server even if you have dynamic ip....

stupid excuses? no thanks;

[Wes]

btw
in evidence i see only tazed Officer and other officers without tazers.
Its good proof for BAN?
All other can taze, not only me... KM too, thats SOG.
I see need to say BB.
I'm not that easy as Deka Sry, but the last thing you have to do when i'm active is make me more madder then i already have, your not only dissing our rules, but now twisting words to fit you and acussing members, you are banned from servers and forums unthil you can come up with a nice appologisy with teh contact us.

[Paul]

all il say HatakeKakashi is that im very dissapointed by your behavior, its not going to be easy for you to have a comeback from this....